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Old 12-13-2006, 01:21 AM
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I know I deal a lot of damage... who else can take out level 23 Cavie stonies in 3 hits? I dunno, works for me <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:35 AM
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[quote:9ea2d]
I know I deal a lot of damage... who else can take out level 23 Cavie stonies in 3 hits? I dunno, works for me Very Happy
[/quote:9ea2d]

[quote:9ea2d]
[i:9ea2d]Outlier
The statistical term for something physicists often also call ``noise''. An outlier is an observation which does not correspond to the phenomenon being studied, but instead has its origin in background or in a gross measurement (or assignment) error.[/i:9ea2d]
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&gt;.&gt;
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:37 AM
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recheck your data

&gt;.&gt;
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:44 AM
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sure.
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IC - Frost Giant - Unguilded - level 10
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:45 AM
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I was surprised too when I found out how much damage I dealt. I dunno, mabey I am just blessed by providence. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->
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IC - Frost Giant - Unguilded - level 10
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:14 PM
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I deal 150 a blow when my victim is not wearing resists.... but even when ppl resist me I still deal lots of damage. I never have fought any1 with meele resist rings though. O.o



When someone put on complete resist to air attacks I still was blasting with huge bolts of lightining on them. even though they were wearing a blue DSM and 2x rings of shock resist and had a scroll of shock resist on them as well. The one way to really cripple my hits is with a gray DSM.. O.o death magic helps make my other blade spells more powerful.
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IC - Frost Giant - Unguilded - level 10
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:19 PM
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the thing is I think you guys have never used high air with static blade. I have tested it and static blade is by far the most powerful. flame blade is just for a little extra damage.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:22 PM
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Blackbeard, you cant really say for sure that narhalles cant do 150 a hit, but I would guess the same as you... Perhaps theres some unknown bug he's abusing <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" title="Evil or Very Mad" /><!-- s -->

Who thinks that I should go for halfling instead of elf? I mean.. at first I just wanted to hit as fast as possible, but now, I want to make it actually possible to use, and halflings get so many more points, possibly improving the speed. &gt;_&gt; Tell me what you think.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:28 PM
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If you will note. I use 18 air and static blade... no one else has that much air. (well somone might but I don't know of anyone.) at lower levels of air (levels 3-9) staticblade is slightly weaker than flameblade. But after level 15 in air staticblade skyrockets, and becomes much more powerful. alo with my 18 air I have a shock absorbtion spell that can block most anything. The only Monsters that I know can hurt me with air attacks are liquishock dragons. and they hardly hurt me.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:35 PM
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This makes me want to test a theory... Hmmm.....



What if whips skill increases speed and likelyhood of hitting but slightly reduces attack power? That would be odd.....


I dunno. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s --> I can't wait to test it out! <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->
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IC - Frost Giant - Unguilded - level 10
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:39 PM
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for every weapon?


Mabey that holds true for most weapons... but has that been tested on every weapon?

until it has, (or until someone looks at the actual code) we can not know for certain that that holds true or every weapon.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:55 PM
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I greatly doubt that, narhalles, otherwise level 0 whips would do like a ton of damage, which isnt the case.
Here's my skillset for a halfling ranger that I made at school

25 whips
25 air
25 death
6 lore
7 spirit
8 meditation
4 merchant

It would have a kickass static blade + magic whip, along with a decent mana shield, however you might use mana shield potions and save 7 skill points for more death, mediation, or merchant. Also I might lower air and death by 5 each and get 10 find weakness

EDIT: just learned strength doesnt affect magic whip, changed my build a little.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:36 PM
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I was postulating Kingfry.... I was wondering outloud.


but at the same time I use magic whip + death + static blade + flame blade + FW



which I don't see you talking about. You talk about High death + air guilded. My guy is not guilded and has high death, air, fw, and uses flame scrolls.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:39 PM
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well tell that to all the Stonies I have 3 hitted in PK...
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:41 PM
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20 to 26 and 3 of them were cavemen. If I remember right I killed atotal of 10 stonies with 3-5 hits each. (more hits for the higher leveled cavies)
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:35 PM
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Lots of offtopic discussion going on <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
OK, now that I know that air and death dont work over your level...

25 whips
20 air
20 death
6 lore
7 spirit
8 mediation
4 merchant
10 find weakness

Every level above that, train 1 whips 1 air 1 death and 1 find weakness <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:32 PM
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Yay, I did something right XD
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:33 PM
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[quote=&quot;Narhalles&quot;:531be]
This makes me want to test a theory... Hmmm.....



What if whips skill increases speed and likelyhood of hitting but slightly reduces attack power? That would be odd.....


I dunno. Very Happy I can't wait to test it out! Very Happy
[/quote:531be]

with a constant of 15 death, for every 5 levels of whip trained and increase of 17 percent was present in damage

since whip had been the only weapon trained, the damage increase had to be from the whip skill

[quote=&quot;layzee&quot;:531be]
when testing a weapon, there is about a 35 percent increase in damage of the weapon, the differences in regular percent increase is too high, so a player should have compound increase, which brings us to this formula

d (=) c(1 + .035)^s

after testing on current damage, the average weapon increase on a compound formula is about 3.5 percent for every weapon level

if all weapons had that formula, they would all be the same, there must be some constant for every weapon, which brings us to the next formula

d (=) (c(1 + .035)^s) + (e*w)

this means that all weapons will be different in terms of damage, and will not go over one, if that does happen, with 50 of a skill will give +50 constant, which will unbalance the game
[/quote:531be]

the base weapon tested was magic whip

[quote=&quot;Narhalles&quot;:531be]
If you will note. I use 18 air and static blade... no one else has that much air. (well somone might but I don't know of anyone.) at lower levels of air (levels 3-9) staticblade is slightly weaker than flameblade. But after level 15 in air staticblade skyrockets, and becomes much more powerful. alo with my 18 air I have a shock absorbtion spell that can block most anything. The only Monsters that I know can hurt me with air attacks are liquishock dragons. and they hardly hurt me.
[/quote:531be]

tanm has 25 air, even if only 23 air worked, tanm would do 200+ damage by now

[quote=&quot;layzee&quot;:531be]
myke with two perfect rings and 30 death does about 70 damage per hit

layzee with 25 fire and 5 whips does 50 damage per hit

if you say that about training air is true, your saying is completly different from fire or water


then the base constant for air is added by 20 damage for every skillpoint

by level 30 max air max death and perfect rings with no whip trained, a player would be 600 damage per hit

this is just the base constant increase, not exponential - if you add that instead of base constant, a player would be doing far greater than 600 damager per hit
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&gt;.&gt;
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:34 PM
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[quote=&quot;Crinox&quot;:f5e96]
remember when i 1 hit u ignignok &gt;.&gt; &lt;.&lt; Shocked
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that means crinox did 400+ damage per hit &gt;.&gt;
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:03 PM
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Lol, watch narhalles edit all his posts and ask us what we're talking about...
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