Reality Behind Quest Information Enforcement
 

I received a private message today from a player telling me that the griping against the evil wizards who couldn't see that quest information shouldn't be against the rules is ongoing. Since I'm sure this will continue ad nauseam, I've decided to make this thread so anyone who wants to can link people to it when such claims are made.

First, I would like to point out that we were never given the authority to shape the rules. Our view of our job was to suggest rules, not make them. If we disagreed with a rule, we therefore felt that we had to speak with Rhialto first and convince him to change it. In the case of quest information, he indicated that changes would be made to that back in the day but never followed through and, as I've said time and time again there were higher priority issues that we were trying to address with him when we were able to get his attention.

Second, here's a slightly modified version of what I sent to Rhialto regarding this very claim:

Unfortunately, I don't think I have the logs dating to mid-2009 when Tesuvah and I had a lengthy discussion about mini-quest information and how to handle quest information that led to us putting warnings in place to try to prevent mistakes from happening as a best fit solution within the current system that we had to deal with. However, if I did I could show you more of the same, including from me.

In any case, if anyone has any questions or would like to have reasoned dialogue about this I'll be happy to discuss it with you as time allows.

:thumbsup: well on the bright side I believe it is a win-win situation and the rule is gone. The problem is that it took 5 freaking years of the game been down! XD well not a big deal for me but still...

Nice of you Arilou to come up and clean other wizes names. now, it's a bit creepy after all this time you keep the logs:p

Mostly, I worked off the logs on the server without downloading them so there's a lot I do not have. During my tenure as arch wizard I made sure no logs were removed from the server as I believed in accountability and I wanted everything to be there for Rhialto. What I did download I downloaded as part of mass downloads of entire folders relevant to my work and I keep everything because I have the kind of personality where I think everything will be useful one day (as it was in this instance). Again, though, that was very little so I asked Contrare what he had so that I could prepare a response to these types of things and what he had he had because he downloaded the entire server in order to run a copy of the game on his local machine to help him with his coding work. He had to dig around for the files for me and, still, he didn't have anything past the mid-2009s.

If your concern is for your tell logs; that's not something I mess with. I'm not interested in your private conversations and did not cull any information from them in preparing the email I refer to in my above post. Everything was taken from the shout log (which is public) and wiz-tells (which is what the above is from).

Good to know.:thumbsup:

To be honest I'm not too worried about my chats, odds are most of them will be impossible to understand due to my poor English XD!